By DrLovegood on 04-03-2008
Romance tends to start off with a bang. We’ve got all kinds of love hormones coursing through our veins which create one of the biggest highs possible. These hormones last for about one year (or less). After that, the romance is generally over unless the two people have been building a relationship. Romance is easy, but relationship is hard. Even though he/she seemed perfect (or close enough) at the beginning, you eventually discover that your partner has a number of flaws which are really annoying. Rather than pitch your lover and start over, consider these tips on maintaining relationships. Love needs to be actively nourished or it will fade away.
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Guardian men are often very traditional in terms of gender roles. They tend to be happiest when they do most of the wage earning and their partner does most of the home making. While most are sensible enough not to expect obedience, they do still expect loyalty and respect. It is very important to avoid shaming them in public by talking down about them, making a scene, or cutting them down.
Guardian women are likely to be looking for a man they can depend on to be there for them when the going gets rough. Like Guardian men, they are likely to be happiest when they are doing more of the home making and their partner is doing more of the wage earning. Most Guardian women enjoy being treated as a rare and fragile object even when they are very tough-minded and ambitious in their careers. Do not embarrass them in public by showing any sort of romantic interest in another woman.
When talking with your mate, keep these things in mind. While you may be simply giving information, Guardians sometimes view that as challenging their knowledge or authority. When they feel intimidated or pushed, they are likely to simply shut down dialogue by saying no to every idea you have. Back off and wait. They are likely to come up with a way to do that something they said was impossible.
Do not expect them to be particularly flexible or able to take on a new activity easily. Guardians tend to plan extensively. If you come home and say, “Let’s go to San Francisco for the weekend!” you are likely to get a whole list of prior obligations. This may not mean that they don’t want to go, rather that they want to honor their commitments. Often, if you give them a day and don’t push, you’ll find that they have miraculously cleared their calendar. Don’t be fooled. That calendar clearing took hours. While Guardians do like to play, they want to pencil it into their schedule first.
To keep your Guardian happy, upset their routines as little as possible. They can and do change, but they need a lot of lead time to do so. Also, most Guardians will actually change more efficiently without a deadline which can send them over the edge into anxiety or rage. Whenever feasible, follow their rules on the ‘right’ way to: squeeze the toothpaste, stack dishes, brake the car, and tend to stains on clothing. If the two of you can’t reach a compromise, it may be better to have two separate toothpastes or drive separately or whatever else is necessary to keep the two of you from getting on each other’s nerves. Sometimes that involves doing chores outside of your mate’s presence so your way of doing things doesn’t precipitate an argument.
A common area of mismatch with a Guardian partner is in the area of money since Guardians tend to be much more fiscally conservative than other types. Guardians tend to feel that they spend their money only on things that are good for the whole family while their partner spends money only on their own personal pleasure. The problem is that, even if you gave them $5000 that didn’t come out of the budget, they are unlikely to spend it on themselves. All of a sudden, they will realize that Tommy needs a new jacket, the recliner needs replacing, and a whole host of other money sucking things. This can take delicate negotiation. One thing that may help if you can afford it is to give your Guardian mate gift certificates to things they’d never buy for themselves, such as spa treatments, personal trainer, bookstore gift card, and so on.
The bottom line with Guardians is to expect to be the flexible one. Avoid upsetting their apple carts, and you are likely to have a mate who works hard to take care of you and make you happy.

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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 4, 2008
Oh, but I am egalitarian, female guardians bug me too, usually the protectors. |
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Posted by ImDiana on Apr 4, 2008
Dear Amyleeandthesea12, Being a Guardian I can agree with your the majority of your comments but have you given any credit to how your parent/s being the "Guardian" may have made it easier for You to grow up and be a "Champion"? Just a thought to consider since you obviously did not grow up to be a Guardian yourself? Best Wishes |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 4, 2008
Thanks for being kind, it seems you are trying to make my situation not seem so bad as the protector so succcessfully does, but that's exactly what I hate, all the protectors around me say 'maybe you could be thankful, or it's not so bad, instead of letting me be angry or sad or just let me feel what I feel and not try to fix everything all the time. Because as an idealist it's those feelings and those extremes that make us feel alive, we are naturally very passionate people and when the protector tries to protect us from ourselves thinking they are helping they are really our spirit. You're right though, I could give my parents credit for making me the fighter I am, making me very aware of how I do NOT want to live but all parents do that, either you want to be like them or unlike them. PS. I believe we are born with our temperaments. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 4, 2008
correction: they are really our spirit = they are really killing our spirit |
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Posted by gemini612 on Apr 4, 2008
I have guardian parents and grandparents and YES it was difficult for me to grow as an Idealist. My sis and my bro are guardians too, so i definitely felt like the odd ball of the family. I can say with almost absolute certainty that Guardians do NOT make it easier for a Champion to grow! Not by nature that is. I do appreciate what guardians do though. |
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Posted by Badlands17 on Apr 4, 2008
I would generally say Guardians don't allow any Percieving type to grow well, especially NPs. The problem arises in that Guardians achieve the greatest happiness through order, stability, and (especially males) control. Their order and stability is disrupted by those who don't like it (Percieving types), and especially those who shun order and stability in favor of what the Guardian thinks are "absurd ideas and possibilities". This can be especially frustrating in a parent-child relationship where you really can't get away. My grandma is the only Guardian in my family, and while I appreciate her for the love she gives her family, her worldviews just totally disagree with mine. Her Idealist and Artisan children are often met with much frustration when she decides to make a political statement about how repulsive homosexuality or interracial marriage is (part of this might be the time she was born in too though). |
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Posted by Jayhawk on Apr 5, 2008
Gee, which one of my wives are you? You know EVERYTHING about me! Thanks.....Great analysis.....Steve the Provider |
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Posted by Lesley on Apr 5, 2008
Guardians aren't the only ones who can make frustrating parents. The idealist Eleanor Roosevelt frustrated her kids, 'cause she spent much more of her time helping people outside her family than she spent with her kids. |
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Posted by LisaFairhurst on Apr 5, 2008
Please let's try to avoid Guardian bashing. This is getting too close for my comfort. My parents are both Guardian Inspectors (ISTJ). That's got to be about the most rigid and unfeeling combination available. Yes, I have some problems with how they raised me. But I do see how I have been made a better person by them. I also see how much they simply didn't understand either of their kids. I have a wonderful relationship with my mother now. With my father, I understand that he loves me the only way he can. ........................................ At this point I'm just waiting for my own children to grow up and tell me that I wasn't the best parent because I didn't provide enough structure and routine and because the house is often dirty, meals are haphazard, and so on. I wanted to grow up and be a mother like my mom, but it just isn't in me. However, my mother positively comments on things I do that she didn't do, so I realize I do have other talents. ....................................................... Amylee, from what I've gathered, your parents were abusive. You may be confusing Guardians with abusers. Of course some Guardians are abusers, but so many aren't and many abusers are of the other 3 temperaments. My mother was not abusive, just clueless. My father was abusive, but on a relatively low level. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 5, 2008
Low level or not, it is still abuse, and cluelessness hurts too. I'm fine calling a spade a spade, a guardian's priority is not people or relationships and that's why they suck at it....and I'm not just talking about my family, I have seen many families including my husbands' where the same situation exists, they make movies and shows based on the typical guardian male run household. And I don't feel guilty or bad for highlighting their negative attributes on occassions (although I could pick my occassions a little less often and not on a guardian forum) because everyday they openly pick out what I suck at, how I have no grip on reality and that I am lazy and impractical and have nothing to offer the world that I am rude and flaky and selfish..need I go on. Of course not all guardians are abusive and each of the other types have abusers too, how stupid do you think I am? I love life and I love what each type can teach me but on occassions because things hit close to home (in the guardian section), I do get a little angry and as a champion I tend to express that anger in the form of a cause, sorry can't help it OOPS that's where I'm abusive..oh no I'm not perfect and I couldn't give a damn! Each type just as each person has good and bad traits and right now I am highlighting some bad ones, I think it's cause I've been pissed off by a few of them lately, next week I will have nothing bad to say about them and will start bashing another type. I do have to admit though, anger aside, that they are the most unaccepting of the types and to a Champion, the Egalitarian of the bunch it just HURTS.. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 5, 2008
Do we need to re-read Dr Lovegood's comments, correct me if I'm wrong but it seemed like she was describing one eggshell after another, an A-Z list of 'this is what you have to do so that they will not get angry at you'. My favorite guardian type is the provider but even they get pissed if you don't let them provide or at least appear to be the better provider in the locale. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 5, 2008
Okay I think I'm done now. Wow being defensive is really tiring. Sometimes I just gotta get it out there and that's why I love these forums because I'm not talking to people who are directly in my life. |
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Posted by Badlands17 on Apr 5, 2008
Lisa, I understand what you're trying to say. I'm not trying to bash Guardians, just being honest in that I doubt it's a rarity for an NP with Guardian parents or even an NP-Guardian marriage to clash. In all fairness, the reverse is probably true as well. And I doubt even a Guardian would deny that they don't generally appreciate people who are out to ruin their structure and order (Percievers). |
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Posted by gemini612 on Apr 5, 2008
Yeah, I feel sorta guilty of guardian bashing (if i have done so) and I'm glad Lisa brought the issue to light. I admit, there are some things guardians do well that I wish I could do, such as being organized all the time. There are so much to learn from guardians and throughout my lifetime I have befriended quite a few of them, several of them are my best friends. I do want to say that having a Guardian best friend are more favorable than a Guardian parent (in my opinion of course) because Guardian best friends will often grant you space should a personality clash occur. Personality clashes with Guardian parents are different because, more than likely, they won't grant the space needed for the clashes to subside. So in the end, it is left to the Idealist kid (speaking from my experience) to suck it up and accept the criticism made about his/her personality, which (again, speaking from my experience) is very painful to some idealists. From the experience I had, I could really really relate to the comments Amy posted above and I totally agree with badlands17. I do, however, think it's worth to mention that personality clashes that are really serious probably apply to all types where the parent and the offspring have differing personality types. I believe Lisa talked about this issue in one of her posts :). I guess the previous comments made in this blog proves that clashes with Guardian parents are more difficult to deal with than a clash with a Guardian mate or friend. |
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Posted by gemini612 on Apr 5, 2008
Correction: ...clashes with parents of different personalities are difficult to deal with than clashes with a mate or friend with a different personality. |
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Posted by LisaFairhurst on Apr 5, 2008
Amylee -- I appreciate your desire to stand up for what you believe along with your willingness to acknowledge that some forums are better than others for speaking your mind. Of course cluelessness hurts. Of course abuse is abuse. But as a parent, I know that at times I've been clueless and abusive. I'm hoping my children will be as forgiving of me as I am of my parents. The one thing I disagree with in what you're saying is that Guardians do not care about people or relationships. While that is partially true of my father, it is absolutely not of my mother. My mother is a classic Guardian Inspector (ISTJ). She is very much a thinker, and has very few feeling abilities. However, she lives and dies by people and relationships. They are the most important thing in her life and always have been. I have trained her on how to handle an Idealist Counselor (i.e. me), so she has learned how to tell when she's hurt me. In fact, she's a bit oversensitive which is nice. ................................................ Badlands and Gemini, I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty, so please don't. I was just starting to feel uncomfortable with the tone of the posts. Most Idealists have at least one Guardian parent. Since we live in a Guardian culture, they've dominated and we've felt squashed. A feeling of anger towards them is normal. I've had to work thru a huge amount myself, especially since I had two of them and both had no understanding of feeling. |
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Posted by LisaFairhurst on Apr 5, 2008
One more thing. When I was in my early to mid 20's, I didn't want anyone telling me that I should look for the silver lining or that my parents really weren't so bad or that their behaviors made me a stronger person. At that point I needed to totally get out everything that hurt and angered me so I could actually begin to heal. I needed to first make a realistic assessment. Then I could start processing it all. Amylee, if that's where you're at, I'm not trying to tell you you should feel differently. I hope, though, that I can hold out hope that it is possible to heal. I live less than 2 miles from my parents, and we get along great. The old feelings, knee-jerk reactions, and so on are 90% gone (maybe more, but I'm conservative). |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 5, 2008
I think we've reached a point of agreement, you noticed that you had to teach your mother how not hurt you, I think that's really sad but necessary in many parent-child relationships I'm sure. Also you realize that you may have been abusive and clueless in regards to your own children and that's because you are intuitive. I know a lot of guardian parents who think they did a perfect job of raising their children and if the child says otherwise even as an adult, the child is being ungrateful and disrespectful and doesn't know what they're talking about. Also you have more in common with guardians being scheduling, so it easier for you to relate to them, I clash in everyway possible with them and the way I get along with them is if I hide who I really am, don't talk about what really interests me and only talk about what they like and what they can understand. They also really like it when I help them with their responsibilities. Unfortunately for me, since they are the majority of the population that is as far as my relationship goes with most of them, they are not willing to understand my point of view, willingly ignorant they fly their hand in my face as to say okay that's enough I'm not understanding and I don't care to, they hate philosophizing, they constantly make fun of me and I have to resort to pretending to be someone they will accept, or put up with their criticisms. I haven't seen my parents in five years so this has nothing to do with them, I am around guardians on a daily basis and this experience along with Dr Lovegood's comments just reminded me of how frustrating it is to have a relationship with a guardian if you are not naturally like them. She said that in the relationship you will have to be the flexible one and don't mess up their schedule, I just don't think that lends itself to a healthy relationship it seems like a lot of give without anything in return. I agree with Badlands17 who said that NP's clash with them more, I just naturally can not have a successful relationship with a guardian and be myself at the same time and since there is so many of them that is why I get sad and angry because it happens all the time...ouch! You don't need to cheer me up as I'm sure your counseling bones are dying to do, I'll get over it, I'm fine, that's what a champion does, it's fun sometimes. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 5, 2008
I guess that's why Keirsey pairs them up with the artisan, because artisans love to get their cake and eat it too, they don't mind placating to the guardian's needs or pretending to care about re-finishing the floors so that they can go out and play and come home to a clean and fully stocked home-base. As an idealist I have higher expectations for relationships and I can't stand being fake or placating but that's my only choice when being around most of the population. |
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Posted by DrLovegood on Apr 5, 2008
Amylee says, Do we need to re-read Dr Lovegood's comments, correct me if I'm wrong but it seemed like she was describing one eggshell after another, an A-Z list of 'this is what you have to do so that they will not get angry at you'. ............................................. My list of things has nothing to do with keeping a Guardian from becoming angry. The list is a way to keep a Guardian happy. Tiptoeing around people so they don't blow up is not healthy. I am most definitely not trying to encourage people to enable unhealthy behavior. ................................................... Guardian's basic needs include order and stability. If you go tromping all over them to express your right and freedom to do as you please, you are not honoring who they are. From my point of view, if Papa Bear wants to eat at 5:30 and go to bed at 10, that's fine with me. Just don't expect me to do it too. But if I'm married to Papa Bear, I'm going to head for bed at 10 some nights for sex if nothing else. And, in general, I am likely to curtail my own freedom by making sure guests are out of the house before 10. That's not called caving in. That's called living together harmoniously. |
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Posted by LisaFairhurst on Apr 5, 2008
No worries, Amylee. I have no desire to counsel you. Our values are different, and you seem to be clear on where you're headed. Perhaps because I am a Counselor and not a Champion, I don't have that hard of a time getting along with most Guardians. Periodically I do get annoyed because I hang out with a very conservative crowd and they are apt to be judgmental. At work, my immediate supervisor is a Guardian Inspector (ISTJ). We get along well and are friends. |
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Posted by Badlands17 on Apr 5, 2008
I'd imagine Guardian friends and Guardian relatives are very different. With Guardian friends, you can just avoid topics that emphasize your differences, while with Guardian relatives, especially spouses, you want them to accept every part of you, which can be difficult when you are very different people. |
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Posted by bigmiller2 on Apr 6, 2008
So, i have read many blogs' and seen many different views on the matter of guardian relationships and wow. Growing up in a guardian family, and i mean two parents, and two siblings- all G's. I see that Dr. Lovegood has responded to the debate. While i agree with most that she has written, i feel that "trying to keep a G happy" is such a thin line to toe that it would be unhealthy. This is of course true if this were the case with any type. Now like you said they can go to bed and 10 or wake up at 5, just do not expect me to do the same. Now if they had the insight to think- I want to do this but, i do not expect you to do it with me- they would be an "N" and not an "S". Really how many G's out there can honestly say that they do not think their reality is everyone elses'. I am yet to meet one that does not push their standards on the world. G's are amazing people. They can work forever and ever, toil happily in their world of practicality. What did Keirsey say their strength was- diplomacy? no! Logistics- evaluating goods and services, determining proper scheduling, portioning amounts, and the like. The most social of all the G's is the Provider, and they are more concerned with the act of providing, even if it is not needed and, sometimes not wanted. So let us stick to what we do best, and not hate ourselves for what we don't naturally do. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 6, 2008
I honor them, I like being with them sometimes and I try never to overwhelm them or ruin their schedule. In order to do that though I have to not be myself and stop about 80% of the things that would naturally come out of my mouth. I am using this forum as a means to express what I can't to them, and if I can't be honest here, where else would I go to vent. I am very kind and understanding of them in the moment but after a while pretending gets to be a bit too much sometimes. I do honor them, of course I do I'm an idealist and that is why it makes me sad that I haven't met one, family member or friend that does the same for me. Oh and according to some psychologists tireless routines and schedule making is another word for addiction and therefore is UNHEALTHY! |
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Posted by ianderson on Apr 6, 2008
I am the child of a Guardian parent who could not understand why I could not learn quickly how to tie my shoelaces or tell time, I frustrated her beyonf belief, which she expressed in not so endearing terms. As an INFP of course all that linear thinking just got me stressed and confused and made things worse. We INFPs must explore all the possibilities and avenues before embarking on a a task. Guardians can be our biggest challenge - we evoke in them a sense of being unfocused or 'airy fairy', nothing is farther from the truth. INFP's also need to explore all of the hurt and emotion that the treatment we receive means to us. I realize now that my mother just did not understand me, she wanted me to be like her. It was inappropriate for her to manifest it the way she did, but understandable. I wish I had learned about Type much earlier in life, it would have changed many outcomes. For Amylee, I am just now reading 'Taming Your Gremlin' by Rick Carson, I highly recommend it. For me I was able to put the 'shoelaces' incident where it belongs - way back in the past, and move forward. Talk to your parents about type and how it can help relationships. Guardians are people that I now seek out, they help me ground my ideas and thoughts so that I can be more successful. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 6, 2008
Thank-you, perhaps that is all I needed...a little support and understanding. You didn't discredit my feelings by talking about my age or that it must only be my experience so I am crazy and don't know what I'm talking about. I will look up that book and I have already read a few that will help I just have to apply them...lol. *here's to love between all types* |
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Posted by ianderson on Apr 6, 2008
I am so happy I was able to help and support your feelings. I spent a lot if my life carrying that baggage around. It was heavy and hurtful. Now that I understand using type I can really move ahead. Believe me (over 50) you can still learn. Good luck in your journey - it ain't easy being INFP. ;), but it will be very rewarding! |
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Posted by wickedbadawesome on Apr 7, 2008
And i Quote: -----------------------" The bottom line with Guardians is to expect to be the flexible one. Avoid upsetting their apple carts, and you are likely to have a mate who works hard to take care of you and make you happy.------------------------------------------------------- Come on "Doctor Love Crap"--------------------------------------- What the heck are you talking about you need to delete that entry, i think that you need to get your stuff checked by a Real "Idealist" (like a champion or counseler, who knows there stuff) - before you post. It makes no sense that everyone around "G's" needs to be flexible. What the universe is theres for the taking, NO WAY, its time we all just be ourselves around them and let them deal with it. NEXT time a guardian puts you in a schedule, or tells you that you are "not grounded" ask them: " Who made you GOD?" Trust me thats who they think they are. i grew up with four. And i am now just learning to understand them. I have a Guardian room mate who is also my brother, we get along - but not always - i am always clashing with him. But what i have learned is to give him his own personal space where he can do things his way. But in return he does the same for me. We come to decision together on important stuff. but for the most part you have to give in to them on things that they are really hung up on. but i make sure he knows that i am letting him have his way - and that it is not what i think is the best solution --- in my opinion only though --- . its called mutual agreement. And it works alot. But this crap about making them happy... and always be the flexible one. there are always some hills i am ready to die on Doctorlovecrap!! |
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Posted by JaneMegaw on Apr 7, 2008
It is fascinating to see all the passion that this article has stirred up. My mother was a Guardian Protector and my father an Artisan Crafter. My brother and I knew when to expect meals, but other than that we had a lot of flexibility. My grandmother (mother's mother) was a Guardian Provider and my grandfather an Artisan Promoter. There was always a lot of comfort and fun in that house. I never got the message to be something that I wasn't. I was just the brainy one, the reader, the one who studied hard and had times when I needed to be left alone. No one scolded me when I wasn't great at household chores. I was the only Intuitive among all my aunts and uncles and cousins. I knew I was different, but I felt loved and believed that everyone wanted the best for me. It seems I had a pretty different life experience than some of the rest of you. |
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Posted by LisaFairhurst on Apr 7, 2008
Since I am not a Guardian, I'm not sure of what I'm about to say. From what I've seen, though, and what my parents have said, Guardians can adapt and change, but they tend to be easily stressed out by lack of organization, clarity, social conscience. In the same way, Idealists are easily stressed out by lack of the ability to see what isn't there (along with an unwillingness to believe Idealists can) and acceptance of differences. When we act like normal Idealists, we annoy Guardians. When Guardians act like normal Guardians, they annoy us. It seems to me that a reasonable way to deal with this not to play to our weaknesses. ................................... Who is more flexible, Guardians or any other temperament? That's why the partner of a Guardian can expect to have to be more flexible. With my mother, I'm the flexible one. There are certain things I have not and will not compromise on. No relationship is worth losing your own sense of self. In return, my mother provides me with some very valuable things. I can count on her to help me with my kids which means so much to me since I work. It reduces my stress tremendously. Of course, I have to be careful in how and what I ask, but she's generally a great sport. Once I forgot to ask her in advance like I'm supposed to. I called her up and asked if my lack of planning could become her emergency. She ended up bailing me out without trying to make me feel guilty. She is learning to understand that when I call during their dinner (always 5), I am not trying to be rude, I simply have no sense of time. |
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Posted by DrLovegood on Apr 7, 2008
Since there have been a couple of comments on the issue of 'keeping them happy,' I thought I'd respond. The idea here is not to act out of fear or to enable sick, controlling behavior. The simple concept is that it seems natural that people would want to do what they can to keep their mates happy, whatever type they are. No one else's happiness is in our total control, but we can influence. Surely that influence should be positive. ............................................... Does anyone out there have a Guardian mate or did anyone have one or are there any more Guardians who'd like to comment on the article? |
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Posted by Shinydemon on Apr 7, 2008
Everybody is different and even Guardians are capable of being understanding and learning to accept others for who they are. I have 2 kids who are both very free spirits (and I would guess not Guardians) and while they may not keep clean rooms and be perfectly quiet at the dinner table, both of them are very creative artistically and musically. I encourage both of them to be who they are and I've learned that the small things don't matter. We don't care if dinner's early or late or whatever, the important thing to me is when we do get together we enjoy and love each other. That being said, I do feel that my Guardian tendencies give them a clean, solid home and I work hard so financially they can pursue the activities they like. To me it sounds like some of the people who have responded here have had bad experiences. It's too bad they felt stifled and their parents couldn't allow them the freedom to be who they are. But it's unfair to put all Guardians in this category. |
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Posted by amyleeandthesea12 on Apr 7, 2008
that's what my parents thought too. |
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Posted by ianderson on Apr 7, 2008
Kudos to the Guardian above who recognizes that children need love like roses need water! I know many Guardians who are similar in nature, I have also had a Guardian boss who was the most supportive person I have ever worked for. Any personlaity type can become abusive when they are ruled by the negative aspect of their type. This is usually because of what happened in their past. We are all very heavily influenced by our parents and our other social contacts. This is behavioural conditioning. |
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Posted by Jaidys on Apr 14, 2008
I noticed the doubts about NP/Guardian pairings. I am an Inventor Rational and my husband is a Supervisor Guardian. While you better believe I don't take well to him "supervising" me and he gets frustrated with my drive to improve on what he is doing/thinking/saying, I couldn't imagine being married to anyone else. He is patient with my ever-changing interests and makes sure I stayed fed and clothed. Just this past weekend he went to the library for me and spent two hours copying a microfiche dissertation when I was crunched for time on a project. What other type would do that, and gladly? Granted, sometimes I wish he shared my love of learning, but once I got him to understand that my ideas and books are part of the way to my heart, he surprised me with a night out to discuss my favorite book which he had been avoiding for two years and finally read. I don't want him to change the way he is, but I really appreciate his willingness to step into my world for an evening. I think I have the best end of the deal in our marriage! My man is a hard worker, great provider, and very loving without being (to a Rational) overly romantic. Maybe we work so well because Inventors can resemble Artisans, and I encourage him to be spontaneous and have fun. I can read a book while he does the taxes... and we're both happy! We each figure the other is a little odd, but we complement each other very nicely. He thinks my enthusiasm and mind are attractive, and I think his stability and responsibility are admirable. |
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Posted by melanief417 on Apr 17, 2008
As a newbie to this site (and to personality tests in general) I am overwhelmed at how on the mark this description applies to me. (I am a guardian/inspector) I feel like I should show my husband this info as we are having this exact money problem right now and I DO know that if he gave me any amount of money I always spend it on everyone and everything else except me. I think the ideas are admirable & feasible but I would love to know if/how to change this aspect of myself so that I can spend money on ME and not feel guilty afterwards. |
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Posted by Nette_7 on Apr 18, 2008
Seems like a lot of us have Guardian parents! Not surprising I guess, looking at the statistics. My mum is a Guardian Protector and my dad a Guardian Supervisor. My sister and I, however, are both Idealists, and we each often have to "explain" the other to our parents when conflicts arise. It usually takes at least 3 of us to make peace between 2 members! So yes, my family would make quite a poster for this page! I have often clashed with my mother over her intense practicality, as she seems to shoot down every idea that I come up with in my one-person brainstorming sessions. However I must say that as a classic Guardian she is an incredible homemaker. This article helped me understand better why I sometimes feel I would be under less pressure (of scheduling, home maintenance and social traditions) if I were to live independently. It's probably the conservative vs. free spirit, or practical vs. idealistic dynamic between the Guardian and Idealist. To deal with it at present, I try to talk out issues with my folks, negotiate boundaries (that's really the key) and establish my individual freedoms. Then, being fully aware of my tendency to bend over backwards to please them, I train myself to ignore any subsequent guilt trips, knowing that it will be as much a growth experience for them as it will for me. |
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Posted by thelostrenegade1967 on Apr 22, 2008
Guardians are cool. yes, I am a guardian, and nothing is more important tome than family, its the Guardian way. |
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Posted by LalaChan on May 6, 2008
My last boyfriend was a guardian, we got along very very well. I would attribute that to the fact that we were both fascinated by the others interests. He was obsessed with scotland, and it just so happened that I am scottish on my moms side! I love Japan, and it just so happens that..well he wasn't japanese. However, I ended up taking highland dancing, and he ended up trying taiko drumming. It was amazing! We are still very good friends, we ended up breaking up because his parents are going through a divorce and it was too much to take at once. The whole family values thing and the breakup only made me appreciate and respect him more though. We plan to get back together after this whole thing is settled. At first, it's hard to see outstanding qualities in quardians because they seem so...normal...but it is in that very "normal" habit that I see a quality individual. My point is, guardians are great if you just give them the appreciation they deserve. |


















Wow, SPOT ON!!! As a champion who loathes roles and expectations and who wants excitement and adventure I can't help feel that guardians are ABUSIVE in relationships sometimes. I've met so many male introvert guardians that are so insistent on their schedules and everyone living by them that the home suffers, cause Daddy Bear has to eat at exactly 5:30pm every night and has to go to bed at exactly 10:00pm every night. Do this, do that...musn't interrupt the news report, and if I talk about a subject I have to pretend I have no idea what I'm talking about and they are the authority on the matter, oh let's bow down in respect to the Head of the House. I know this is immature but EEWWWWWWW!! I believe a guardian run household leaves no room for personal development something very important to me of course, and the home ends up reeking of male dominance and the wife and kids being slaves to his obsessive compulsive needs. (I grew up in a household like this, if you couldn't tell...and I've seen so many others too.)